Everyone Says It's The BEST Throwing Putter EVER MADE?! // Axiom Envy: Bag it or Bin it

welcome back to Bonanza disc golf into a new series called bag it or Bennett and today I'm going to be looking at the MVP just kidding Axiom Envy but it feels like MVP because it's always just lump day when you talk about them it's a throwing putter that probably everyone has heard of and apparently it's the best throwing putter in the world I have an electron soft Envy as well as a proton Envy so we'll see how they fly different we're gonna play a six hole course here it's called Area 51 disc golf course pretty sick in Columbus area Ohio not Columbus Georgia but there's a Twist if we don't beat par we have to bend them and I have to give them away within the next three days and obviously put that in this video if I don't be part but that's never gonna happen guys I am going to be bringing actual putting Putters though I get some more practice putting in that way because I'm spending a lot of time filming videos spend a lot of time practicing disc golf okay don't comment that yet I know what you're going to say I'm at a Mercedes dealership right now because our fan is getting fixed regret we're about to have to spend a lot of money so if you want to join the patreon feel free I know that these are Putters and I did a glitch versus Berg video and I had people on that video say why didn't you put with the glitch in the bird and for me those are throwing Putters and these I know a lot of people will put with those like I said I need to practice putting because I have a tournament coming up this weekend right now and I haven't practiced disc golf I've just been doing content and I have some videos coming out about why that's the case and why I don't think that will hinder my Pro Tour Pursuits but we'll talk about their own Butters okay back to me and along the way I'll also have some discs that I bring out to compare it to in case I think that they're flying similar in case you've thrown one but not the one that we're doing this is a whole 18-hole course but I am going to be testing out a few different discs this hole is 346 feet Dead Ahead which I think is probably just outside of my putter range but everybody says these are the furthest flying Putters so we're going to throw both of these guys and what's cool about MVP is that the flight numbers change based on these discs so this one is three three zero two and this one is three three negative one two so it should have a little bit more turn we do have a Tailwind as you can probably hear in my mic which is why I'm trying to Shield it a little bit but it is so cold so let's give them their first rips we're going to start with electron sucks since it's less stable and in this video I will putt with these as Putters since they are Putters instead of my normal Putters oh I'm editing this chronologically I guess we're all on the same page come on don't freeze hands that's a really nice flight wow no way oh that was pretty solid I think it didn't want to turn a lot because I did throw a tiny tiny bit nose up and with the Tailwind Staples it out that's what I'm gonna try to flex over a little bit more since it should be more stable and see how it holds oh wow pretty glidie was I pulled that a little left but both of those are down there for a circle look I'm gonna have to be honest these went pretty far the other one's like 20 feet short and my body not being warmed up so that's pretty good oh the wind is coming this way so if I put it like this it's going to show the flight plate and Go whoo everywhere yes good birdie well two is much more of a putter shot just right through the middle there and it's only 189 feet so this should be a get with both of these one thing that's kind of interesting I bagged envies for a tiny tiny very tiny bit didn't really throw it a whole lot I don't think I appreciate it throwing Putters at the time I thought for some reason I was throwing it too hard as a pudding putter was just so flippy the fact was when I would release on a backhand I would roll my wrist back so rolling your wrist it's going to turn the disc over because you're essentially feeling like you're going flat but then you release on a crazy amount of anhyzer and it just rolls it down so now as I fix that by focusing on falling through flat or falling through up with a hyzer release I started to get a bigger appreciation for throwing Putters which is why right now I bag Piers which I really really like and they honestly Piers might be a tiny bit deeper than the Envy no they almost feel they actually feel very very similar like these moles holy cow oh those are the same bowls and the enemy feel and look pretty similar honestly I'm gonna throw it after these ones and then funnily enough I took these out of the bag as well because I thought that they were too deep for my hands and then I bagged this guy got four and if you've ever touched one of these you knew that I was stupid for doing that because these are not too deep for my hands that was too deep for my hands because that's like two times as deep as this disc so I brought that out to test it with spinny hyzer line maybe try to give them a little bit of bid to make things interesting that should do maybe a tiny bit short maybe a little more forward follow through instead of just spinning it that one is definitely a little flippier but still a decent shot that one might actually go farther than the proton plastic one and now for the pure similar shot oh that is flippier interesting that disc is slightly flippier and I don't know if it went as far I was expecting that to be more similar to the flights of those enemies I kind of really like how the enemy is coming out I'm really excited because as of today trash Panda just released their first mold or didn't release it was PDGA approved I'm gonna definitely get my hands on some of those maybe even bag them because when I threw them in this video series when I was visiting Jesse in Colorado I really really like them easy buckets the envies are flatter on top than the pure is which I like especially because I think that'll make them good forehand discs this pin is 249 feet down here and then to the left where are you bud oh wow it does ride that side so you got to be pretty careful here with how you throw this this is where I don't think I would throw my pure because it's too glidy and understable so with those combinations it's just going to hold the hyzer line straight it's never going to finish but these discs kind of seem to want to the proton plastic way more than the electron soft so I will throw the sky God because the pure I think is more understable than both of these discs which is weird because it feels pretty similar we'll throw the electron soft first big name of the game is just hitting this initial Gap right up here pretty high so it gets up there and drifts back over foreign two oh that might be good but it's gonna finish it was too far you probably need like a mid or something that'll slow down and start to glide back that one's all right that was a little lower which isn't what you want because in this throw you want the wind to be hitting it so it goes back to the left we're gonna try this guy got four here and that's why that's out of my bag it's just so deep I don't actually get a grip on it so it can't release off my index finger so honestly I'm just gonna pick that up the funny thing about Sky God too is I have two Aces on Sky Gods but they're both on my pink one that I used to bag this is my grip my index finger is not at the bottom there and it's not comfortable at all well this is interesting because this is just outside the circle here the electron soft is honestly a little farther and penetrated a little more but this is a pretty solid disc and if this thing holds some torque on a forehand this might go in the bag in place of my purest except I still have flippier peers for other slots don't worry about it oh wow that big time win drop all right this is to go three for three right here boom whole forward Tina from right here 380 feet all the way kind of up this Gap you can barely see it because it's way down there but we're just gonna try to take a big hyzer here electron softs first get over whoa no no no no no no no where the heck did that go I saw some leaves fall off a tree but I did not leave that nearly wide enough I thought it would flip up maybe a tiny bit I forgot the wind is coming from the right to the left so with the wind doing that anytime you expose the flight plate underneath it like I did it's gone so oh that's gonna be a weird scramble foreign push it back no that was gonna come back of it into that tree sometimes I throw slower speed discs like that like they're like higher speed discs so the wind doesn't affect them as much with a higher speed disc and they have more like penetrating finishes that was bad all right oh I got it a little forced over let it finish short probably that's all right all right this is the tree that I saw the leaves fall down from but I don't know if that means that we're by the tree or in the woods oh found it really stoked I saw those leaves fall off that tree because I saw where it is but I don't really have any out oh I can try a force over as long as I hit this Gap and don't hit the branches I might be able to get another 50 or 100 feet foreign man I was so confident I would just hit that line and be golden we do again have to throw the same type of shot no oh time to make the put of my life oh that was really good let's get this birdie though we got a switch for the leader all right here we are hole number five par three 225 straight up the gut there pretty obvious Highs are shot but I want to see before we get to the end of this how these guys hold forehand torque so I'm gonna throw these on anhyzer forehands the Tailwind will definitely help but we're gonna go proton plastic first oh interesting it was a little bit too left but that seemed to hold it so if I aim us a little bit more right we should be good wow I think it just speed ramped into the woods both have a little bit of torque I would like to try them on a hyzer forehand so hopefully we can do that next hole alrighty so not the end of the world got a nice stepper I'm gonna move this out of the way can't Mark with that when I'm stepping through stay up oh where the heck did that guy jump to it's way over there it went far oh I don't even know if I have a lane honestly gonna get down to a knee and have a little forehand at it that's the only thing I got dang it I will say one thing that I noticed is it hit a tree and there's now some warpage in it and I hate this in this so right here you can probably barely see but it hit a tree and it's a little bit warped round round round round warped right here hate that that's why I like throwing premium plastic stuff which is why I like the pure a lot because it has a similar flight to this disc maybe slightly more understable but it's better for me still solid I don't think it'll change the flight that much but we're on the whole six and I think we get my wish of a hyzer forehand because we are headed straight for 228 feet with a little bit right finish so probably throw it flat and see if it'll finish on its own foreign there pretty pretty great that definitely holds it better because that one I threw in a lot more hyzer didn't want to flip or turn out of it at all which is pretty solid so I think for sure the Plastics will make a big difference in these guys I think the last one I had was Neutron soft and I didn't like it quite as much I really like the proton plastic one I think that for both of these discs I'm probably gonna have to say bag it I know that's controversial nobody likes the Envy but now throwing them again I don't know if it's going to go in my bag but it might make a rotation as I'm trying to figure out how I like the different feels and kind of different discs are pretty similar I think this is going to go into my straight to stable putter slot as an option for sure interesting little putt to end it oh barely snuck it over obviously it's gonna be the Archer not the arrows but if you're looking to get these arrows probably be a good bat I'm about to film my second official baguette or Bennett with the end of a pig because I've never ever thrown it in my life but if you want to check out my previous disc reviews check mine out for the Berg right over here I think you'll be interested in my conclusion but I love you see you there like the video please subscribe trying to hit 10K hopefully we can here's the pig hopefully it's good bye