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Watch on YouTubeJoin host [Name] as they delve into the world of professional disc golf and explore the importance of injury prevention and fitness in achieving top-level performance. Guest Josh Winter, a licensed athletic trainer, shares his expertise on how strength training and lifting can improve disc golf skills and prevent common injuries. From discussing the growing need for gym training in professional disc golf to exploring the benefits of non-disc golf workouts, this conversation covers it all. With a focus on preventing nagging injuries and achieving success at the Pro Tour level, Josh shares his philosophy on how to get the most out of your workout routine. As a passionate advocate for injury prevention and sports performance, Josh has firsthand experience with the importance of proper training and conditioning. His goal is clear: to help players like [Name] achieve their goals without sacrificing health or happiness. Tune in as they discuss the future of professional disc golf and what it takes to compete at the highest level.
Podcast Transcript
welcome back to Bonanza disc golf and today we're going to actually be talking with a licensed athletic trainer who's actually training me and program some workouts for me specifically designed around disc golf because honestly over the next couple years I don't know if it's one year two years five years it's going to be a requirement to be a professional to be going to the gym because of injury prevention and just getting better at the game because there are some things that the strength that lifting will provide you and the longevity will just be necessary if you want to compete at the top level so we're going to talk to Josh I'm just going to let him introduce himself real fast uh I'm Josh Wint I like to be known as the injury prevention guy really focused around preventing injuries just specifically in sports which is how I got started and where my passion comes from I played baseball growing up had a lot of shoulder pain was taking four or five Ibuprofen before every baseball game which is uh definitely not good for you I was passionate about baseball and wanted to be out on the field that was the sacrifice that needed to be made for that so that's where the passion really comes from is my own injury not wanting other players uh have to experience that falling behind go wise because of a nagging injury now the way that we actually got connected is because I have been talking at the beginning of project 100 that we needed to do non-discoff workouts as well as hitting up the field or the net in one of those videos Josh had actually reached out to me and so we were able to connect a little bit and so let him talk about that but I also included this section from our interview because I think it shows kind of where I'm at right now with my mindset of thinking about trying to get to the Pro Tour or just cash it a Pro Tour event and that just LED seamlessly into talking about his philosophy with lifting and disc golf and why it's so important I knew his goal is his goal and plan a 100 confident that he's going to achieve it is playing on the pro tour at least one of us at this point honestly okay it's there The Confident I saw a good quote the other day uh how are you able to like stay super confident it's like continue training and things like don't you ever waver and I totally am going to butcher this response maybe I'll find it put on the screen but oh the confidence comes and goes but like practicing like the consistency is like that will always carry you through so it's like confidence comes and goes even at like a lot of those Elite levels I'm like right now I'm in a very not that stage which I think is a real thing to show on the journey but that doesn't that can come and go as long as I continue training and working towards it making it happen so there's Ebbs and flows of it um so working working with athletes I know is what I'm supposed to do in my downtime that is literally all I think about um is is how I can help athletes um and when I see when I see injuries in various Sports this is a disc golf channel so I'll even related to that you see the three main things that I focus on every exercise every rep every set every movement are training at a pain-free level so every every time you are doing an exercise is it pain-free that's a question you should ask yourself Eagle literally going from probably a top five top ten forehand and in disc golf to not throwing a single one it's these guys like Simon going down missing some tournaments Macbeth missing some tournaments Paul you will bargnith in some tournaments because of injuries and obviously disc golf is a non-contact sport but obviously an overuse sport something that doesn't get talked about a lot is preventing those injuries a lot of time it gets chucked up to hey this is an overuse injury which is true but there's also ways that I believe and have seen firsthand that you can prevent those my passion is and and connecting with you somebody that's on that path of trying to get the professionally you don't have time to be injured if an injury is putting you out even right now you're dealing with a little bit of elbow pain if that gets worse that sets you back another year that sets you back two years and at that point we're starting to we're starting to lose time yeah and I'm already I'm already feeling that right now with like the way that my elbow feels it's like definitely an it's something that I feel is manageable for sure and it's like decreasing and going down I'm not able to like get to the field or the net as much as I want to because I know like there are things that like are I'm seeing changing my four minutes going well and good but if I'm trying to continue throwing hard and work on those distant shots I can I like have a shot count that I'm thinking about every day I'm like I don't want to overuse this right now because I know that it's like it's getting better but it's not there yet and that's one of the reasons why I was really excited to work with someone who understood that side of injury prevention and lifting because I kind of put a call out which is one of the things that I think that one of the reasons you reached out is I was like man I'd like want to lift I know it's important I know not enough people are talking about it in disc golf but in every sport like you hear about golfers being in the gym and like that's like not a contact thing they're they like aren't doing run-ups and other things they're not contorting their bodies in weird positions and weird lies in the same way but they're still getting to the gym gym and like they're not getting bulky but they're doing something there so I knew that there was something there and I think that that's the way that the sport is moving in the next five ten years everybody's going to be in the gym pre-season off season during the season and I want to be on the Forefront of that because if I'm wanting to become a pro now and I'm 25 I don't have the time to waste to like only do the small things that'll get me to that level I want to be doing everything I can to give myself that Advantage examples that I think are really cool right now to look at are like one is Brodie Smith who this off season really hasn't touched discs and like just watch that video today yeah just like serious respect for him I think he's really trying to like set the pace for athletes in the sport because and that's one of the things I'm excited with my move is my main goal is not to be like Oh I'm just gonna treat myself like a disc golfer I want to treat myself like a professional athlete in disc golf and like with my diet with my workouts with my sleep with my recovery patterns with how much I'm throwing and like the ways that I'm looking at training I want to treat myself like that and I think that Brody has shown like he's down like a ton of weight over this off season looks way better and like that going to help him on the longer horses to play better over the long run and more importantly to me which is one of the things that you're helping with is building sustainable habits not just like oh during this off season I'm going to do all this but I'm actually going to change my lifestyle and I'm going to make it so that I have a workout and lifting plan that is good for now but also throughout the rest of the season and then into the next office season like what are the next goals and the new things that we want to be able to work on with that my job as your trainer and somebody that works with professional athletes is to yes I have a an ideal goal of what I would like workouts to look like but there's also here is the where we're at and I need to I need to as my job balance the in between wherever we're at on that spectrum of here's where I want us to be here's where we're at I need to balance that spectrum and figure out where my athletes at and work with them for instance we we were at five days a week that I planned out it wasn't working um a because he's getting back Anthony's getting back into working out and B he lives out of a van so there's not as much option he'd spends 20 to 25 30 hours a week just trying to live working out on top of that was an added stress and so we bumped it down to three days a week and gave him something that he can do that don't require going to a gym and so finding that finding that balance is is part of my job that doesn't need to be um on Anthony's shoulders because he's the one focusing his job is to try and be the best disc golfer he can my job is to help and Aid in that so and I know that information just comes from a lot of places nowadays and that's why on this channel I'm never trying to be a coach I'm never trying to like be an outlet for beginners to learn how to play disc golf I'm just wanting to share my journey and hopefully that inspires some people and I know that some people have said that they've gotten better through watching my channel that's not the main purpose of this channel to be honest with you take what you want from these videos but verify it through people who are trying to be coaches and to are more knowledgeable in some of the things that I talk about because I just share my experience and this leads me into the credentials that Josh has with lifting and getting training and why he's transitioning that into disc golf yeah 100 I went to I went to college um and I am a licensed athletic trainer I have been doing Bodywork focused manual therapy since January of 2017 pretty much at any age uh any Walk of Life get out of pain through manual therapy through through massage and then also on top of that adding in exercises that are going to help keep them pain-free worked as a personal trainer currently I am working for a company called NovaCare contracted through Delta and helping they call them industrial athletes helping them with work injuries non-work injuries and then on the side running my business working with athletes helping them A prevent injury and B optimize their athletic performance and I think that that leads perfectly into the workout plan because I do think that that is uh kind of two steps like you just said is the preventing injury and optimizing performance because I would love to be able to optimize my performance but I'm a little injured right now so I can't do that and so I think your philosophy too with this is going to be perfect so what's your like when you look at disc golfers and how lifting like weight training specifically whether that's body weight training like or weights in the gym how do you see those two kind of coinciding what's your philosophy on that and then yeah 100 so disc golfers I'd probably say for the most part I don't know the exact stats on it but uh it's a high percentage that do not work out I've talked to a lot of them or a decent amount of them and for the most part disc golf is how they how they work out working out is part of being a professional sport and being a sport in general I realize that there is recreational disc golf and do you need to work out for that to be a recreational disc golf player absolutely not whatever you want to be at the top of your game you're gonna need to work out because if you're not these young kids that are coming up that that are playing disc golf because they know it is a professional sport and they're attacking it as that I've seen some of these kids out here I went to a putting league and there's an 11 year old kid who was on the amateur or went and played at Junior world and realizes the importance and realizes the potential that's in disc golf is already throwing 350 feet and putting out of his mind like there's kids coming so if these guys that are on tour right now are not realizing that they need to work out they're going to start getting left behind working out with disc golf looks obviously a lot different than other sports so my focus is working looking through the mechanics and playing disc golf recreationally can understand those mechanics a little bit better and so breaking down those movements but also just figuring out where the problem spots are and really writing up a plan how to avoid those with certain exercises so the three main things that I focus on every exercise every rep every set every movement are training at a pain-free level so every every time you are doing an exercise is it pain-free that's a question you should ask yourself are you moving through your full range of motion it's not my full range of motion that's not Anthony's full range of motion it's if you as the viewer it's a your full range of motion are you moving through it and then are you controlling that movement controlling it as in not just flying through the movement when you're doing The Eccentric part of the movement so we have the concentric part of the movement eccentric is elongating that muscle are we controlling both sides of that and if we're not able to check those three boxes every time we're doing a movement every time we go to the gym not just every set every rep every time is the importance that we're hitting each three things and if we can't hit all three of those things we need to figure out how to regress that movement make that movement easier so that we are able to check those three boxes every time because those three things training pain free through the full range of motion and controlling the movement are the key to being pain-free staying pain-free and and optimizing your performance making sure that those muscles are trained properly for whatever we do throughout the day and that honestly is the main key because training is going to allow you to do more not only in disc golf but in your general life because you're making yourself do things that are harder than what this golf or your life will throw at you in the gym in a controlled environment that you can progressively overload which is like a gym term of making it harder and harder and harder every workout starting from where you are now to where eventually hopefully the workouts that I'm doing are way harder than throwing the hardest sidearm that I can and therefore I should be able to do that for a lot longer without the risk of injury and speaking of injury I had another question for Josh just about that what are the main places of injury that you see that you're trying to mitigate by creating like a lifting Planet especially if you look at some of the top people throwing far the brace like the bracing movement against that right leg if your right hand back in is a violent looking movement when you look at it in slow motion the forehand is a violent looking movement when you look at it in slow motion like you see the way that it can contort and like that looks like something that can be very painful for you but through talking with Josh and like learning about this like it doesn't have to necessarily be something that can tear if you actually train it right and are doing movements with similar ranges of motion with more weight than you might end more strain that you might put on it in controlled environments that you work up to progressively and so that's the point of all this is and in doing that you might be able to even make that a stronger movement and throw it a little bit farther and so it's not only preventing like preventing things but potentially being able to like throw farther with less pain do it more accurately because you're not being as fatigued every time you do it because you put yourself through further strain than you might on the disc golf course and those are the main reasons why I'm excited to continue on this lifting Journey yep so uh as you said the obviously the elbow is going to be a super important one um for the four for the forearm specifically is where basically get the most strength but with that whipping motion of the backhand as well for either player that elbow's taking a decent amount of strain as well that's probably the number one thing that's keeping players out guys like Paul uhr Paul Macbeth Eagle yeah Kristen too so elbow um obviously number one shoulder is going to be number two uh your dominant shoulder whichever arm you're throwing with and so those are kind of the two main is this is a disc golf movement here are exercises that we're gonna work on and then obviously rotation is a huge aspect the faster you can rotate but also the safer you can rotate the better for speed at which you're releasing that disc which obviously then equates to distance but we also want to do that in a safe a safe manner getting down into the lower body that's where a lot of the strength from disc golf comes and honestly all this culminates into my goals with disc golf which are caching in a Pro Tour event and kind of just seeing where the chips lie after that point seeing how how high I can get how good I can get maybe that's never caching maybe that is getting a top 25 or making a Pro Tour Championship at some point But ultimately all that is going to happen by having proper lifting and nutrition which is the main thing that we talk about next in terms of getting to the pro tour the goal of getting to the Pro Tour should not be the end of your goal his goal is a to get to the Pro Tour but also once he gets there to do well on the pro tour so fighting and grinding your ways to just get to the Pro Tour just solely focusing on disc golf you're going to run into injury quick I can't tell you exactly each person is different so I can't break down hey within the first year within the first two years but that injury is coming working out is important not just so that you can throw farther or that you like can improve in different aspects of your disc golf but preventing injury this is a a little sport you don't have you don't have teammates around you that can guide you and and make you a better disc golfer while you're playing a tournament yeah they can help give you tips here and there you'll have four other guys on a basketball court like you don't have 10 other guys on a football field those are individual sport so it's on you to to stay on the course because if you're not playing Disco If you're not making money so so working out is extremely important in sports disc golf is a sport staying injury free is going to be the best outcome for your next contract for your next paycheck and injury-free is the the goal to that if you're already on the pro tour and you're watching this cool appreciate it call me up we'll we'll keep you on the pro tour for help you prevent injury or if you're already dealing with an injury will help you get out of that injury and will help you Excel past what just playing disc golf can get you there's percentages that we can improve things and prevent injury all at the same time it doesn't have to be am I preventing injury or am I improving a disco that can all be done at the same time you can find me over on Instagram at joshwentz j-o-s-h-w-i-n-t-z you can find me on YouTube at the injury prevention guy Josh Wentz will also work those will both pull up those are the two main spots you can find me over on Twitter to use that a little bit not as much but more video content will for sure be coming on on YouTube with it being such an up-and-coming Sport and something that I'm very passionate about playing myself but on helping athletes more so definitely go check out Josh's stuff but I also will be having a lot more content coming around lifting in disc golf and just showing my workouts we didn't give any specific plans or anything in here or a lot of specific workouts because I'd rather just show you what I'm doing but because I'm not licensed to give advice and he doesn't know who you are and what your specific plans are so we're going to be sharing my three workouts as well as one thing that I do about three times a week just in order to help strengthen mostly elbow and legs but those will be coming out soon so please subscribe for those videos thank you so much Josh for training me and for being on the channel check him out I'll see you guys tomorrow with another video uh getting close to my move just a couple days away have some content planned through that and then uh we'll see what happens that might not be daily forever okay love you guys