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Bodanza DG PodcastsJuly 6, 2024

The BEST Approach Disc Lineup In ALL OF DISC GOLF?!?

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today I want to find out if Prodigy has the best approach lineup ever made in all of disc golf there are some other companies who could buy for that but I want to First Take a look at all the profiles of these discs then we're going to split them into a couple different categories cuz they're definitely not all made equal we'll take a look at some normal use cases out on the course actually right behind me and then we'll go for a six-hole CTP battle where we throw them on every angle backhand and forehand and determine the winner from each of the three groups and which is my overall favor and if Prodigy does have the best approach lineup um it's pretty good and these are all in the same plas which is really nice let's take a look at these three different categories of approach this from Prodigy side by side to see why I classified them in these groups and what the differences are between them before you even get out and throw them because these differences will make a difference as they get thrown and honestly only one of the differences seems to make sense to me so far let's take a look at the Finesse guys we have the Distortion over here and the A5 and honestly if you look at them they are very similar the main difference is think are it's a little more rounded at the top of the A5 the bottom bevel is very similar but the A5 is a little more rounded and a little tiny bit shallower on the top part all right here we're going to be looking at the A4 and the A3 which I kind of like to think about as mini Gators because they both a little bit blocky here and then they have a bead at the bottom pull you guys down just slightly so you can see what I'm talking about to be completely honest with you from looking at both of these guys the main difference that I can see is just that this one the A3 is ever so slightly shallower than the A4 they both have a little bit of Dome that you guys can see here compared to both the A5 and the Distortion which have a little bit of a puddle top as you can see but the ever so slight difference in shallowness as well as the only other thing I can notice is there's this seems to be slightly more beveled and this slightly more rounded even though this one is supposedly a little bit more understable as the numbers would suggest we'll have to see if that bears out and now it's time to look at the beefy boys we have the A2 and the A1 the A1 does look like it has slightly more Dome at least here I have some a2s that are very Dy so I think it probably just matters run to run I am glad that we have all these in the same plastic and to be honest with you this just looks like they took the A2 and they added a bead to make it a little bit more uh less glidey and more overstable but otherwise these look like basically the exact same disc as you could see there which a lot of times just adding a bead is what makes something more overstable which is why you have the Luna and the Kratos that b basically have that same exact story similar disc just with a bead not a lot of other companies have this many varieties of offerings in the approach Department Inova is one that I think might rival Prodigy and give them a run for their money because they have now the Toro which is a very Zonik disc and honestly the only other approaches that I have are zones right here which is most similar I would say to the Distortion but the Distortion is slightly deeper and a little more rounded on the top this one also has more puddle but that might just be a plastic based cuz I do have puddle toop zones so Inova might be able to compare with Prodigy because they have Toro now Pig rat a bunch of other ones that not a lot of people are throwing in general but then again not a lot of people are throwing a3s and a4s as well so before we get out and try to have a six-hole scoring round with each of these let's go and take a look at the flight for actual approach shots because we'll likely be throwing a lot of either very far approaches or drives with these when we actually go to score them on the par three course I really like what overthrow does sometimes in their reviews and we're going to look at some use cases this is a par 4 here whole 10 alen 630 ft the first shot for me is just a big probably 400 and change foot Hiser and then a backhand or a forehand into the green and since this is basically exactly 200 ft I'm 202 from the rangefinder we'll throw Four Hands here do have a little bit of a right to left so this will be a perfect show of the stability of these when you're nice and uh softly toned down A5 first and the Distortion those honestly seem to fly very similar to me and they like to really kind of glide on that I don't have to give them a lot of juice and I do think that trying to torque into them makes them a little more finicky out of all these discs they seem to have the most want to turn next are the A3 and the A4 which are surprisingly slightly different the A5 and the Distortion relatively similar here's the A4 first it's not a terrible approach watch how differently I have to throw this A3 though a lot more driven a lot more nose down has a lot of late stability and was going to finish in the same spot if didn't get a great tree kick next up we have the A2 and the A1 which you've see I'm probably I'm sitting back in these approaches just kind of chipping them up there I'm going to have to get my body into these A2 first which you've seen me throw a lot before if you've been on the channel I used to bag one still is an option to bag I just only have the zone right now as an approach disc a little juicy could have thrown a little softer but the A1 we'll see what we need to do with this oh my gosh I honestly thought that would drifted over enough holy cow we'll move up to 150 ft for the forehand throw them on a more typical Hiser line and show you how wide you have to put them from the basket and then we get into some backhand approaches before we see them off the tea we're going to act like there a is Amando to the left of these trees cuz this is a situation you can definitely find yourself in having to get up and down from I think this will be 162 142 ft from right here this is actually going to be a really good show of how differently these are all going to fly something like the A2 and the Distortion which fly relatively similar but very straight on a forehand actually kind of nice to have I would prefer to throw these guys on hisers always to do that we got the trees in the way and so we're going to have to take these a little bit higher whereas with like the A2 if I take it that high it can obviously dump in by the basket but I can also just trust it because I have over stable the A2 and the A1 are to just skip around those trees so we'll go A5 first nice and heer around the trees it's got a lot of Glide and push and that's the way to get to the basket I like that it sits very soft it doesn't have a lot of speed coming in Distortion is probably going to fly the exact same very similar maybe a little more stability it's it's hard I think it's a little faster like a little more speed they call the A5 a 3speed and the Distortion of four-speed maybe a little bit of a stretch but I don't know they seem they're very similar next are the A4 and the A3 which are going to have similar flights but this time instead of kind of taking them at a wide heer around the tree I can take these at a lower Hiser and Skip them or I could take them a little bit higher over the tree and I think because the A4 seems to have a little more push than the A3 I'll take the A4 over and the A3 under is how I would play these shots play that one pretty bad huh an A3 I don't like that it has that more that less Glide more stability and a big roll away from the basket to make up for what happened on the last hole now the A2 and the A1 I could take these up and over but that brings a lot of wind into play these do counteract the wind a little bit better but I like just kind of getting a little Skippy on the ground action A2 first I think I could throw this one on a little Hiser A1 I'm definitely going to have to throw flat terrible flat gets to angle almost skips in I have another A2 to show what I mean since that was so bad I just didn't commit to it right in the same tree hopefully that shows you the A1 going to be a little more of a stable I probably could have thrown that flat shot with the A2 and it still gotten the skip but I think they do a good job of distortion and A5 being very similar and then everything does get more and more overstable as you get closer to the one Department let's take a look at a couple probably 200t approach back hands from a standstill as well on whole 18 now we're going to pretend like we got a horrendous kick and we're left here with what is this 162 left with 198 ft into the basket how would we attack with each of these approach discs and to be honest with you the A5 and the Distortion are going to be significantly harder to get close to the basket than the more overstable versions of all these discs that's because with something like this since it's not really going to want to move too far to the left by itself it wants to more be straight torque resistant and get a little fade you're going to need to throw it a little bit higher to give it more time to move to the left or something that just inherently wants to move to the left you can throw a little lower and it'll get there and even skip these especially in semi Sandy ground they're not really going to skip so if throw Distortion here the higher it is the more it can filter through the trees but we'll push this a little farther a little higher and wider and we' played oursel into a nice 20ft look those will likely be the farthest away from the basket out of any of these the A4 has a little more Glide but a little more overstability I think that's why when I threw it on the forehand High over the trees I threw it very similar to those two discs but because it's more overstable it didn't really want to just chill and push forward it already wanted to start getting to the right even though it's a little glider so I could throw very similar shots to those and they'll get even closer to the basket the A3 if we throw this instead of getting the height we just throw this a little more inside since it's also not as glidey we'll throw it a little harder cuz we need more speed since we're not throwing it as high in the air with time to move left we're also going to put it on a similar amount of Hiser and just have it get right to the basket and that pushed right there that's the closest one yet next the A2 and the A1 these are going to be fun A2 I think is that same exact shot just even a little bit harder or the same exact shot and it just gets a little more left and the A1 I think we honestly from even here we might need to give a touch of flexor flat out of the hand which is crazy to think about just a little harder than the A3 and that is going to be really really close and the A1 what a crazy disc I can't believe it still got that close holy cow so Distortion landed right here the A5 look like I said very similar just actually gave it the right distance and this is still a makeable putt but when you're kind of coming from that angle you can't really push it in far enough so you just leave yourself a putt that youu air ball with the camera in your hand the A4 next right here very similar to the A5 just a little bit more left and a little bit farther cuz I probably threw it slightly harder the A3 a little bit lower a little more driven again this is one that's most similar to my zone so I'm throwing it very well parked the A2 also threw a little harder than the A3 got even a little more left and parked and for throwing the A1 flat same distance as the A2 just barely not is left no looker and then I'll see you guys out on the course dang it I'm never going to make those all right let's get into a nice CTP battle A1 vers A2 A3 versus A4 A5 versus Distortion I'll go ahead and show you guys one at a time we'll start from the most understable seaming and then the more interesting A3 and A4 and then we'll get to the beef see who wins this part and then I'll give you my final recommendations I'm also going to alternate the box and I do like putting for a lot of my reviews but since this is really kind of comparing two three sets of two discs we're going to go ahead and just do ctps this time it also speed it up a little bit for me so I don't have to put A5 first then distortion so A5 versus Distortion is up first and you guys are going to notice I was actually able to play a forehand Hiser hole then I played a backhand Flex Shot and then I played a forand flex shot and then a backhand Hiser and then a backhand straight and then a forehand straight or flat that was the aim of all those shots I did have to redo one of them because I just thre them really bad the first time just to make sure that I got the right opinion on these discs and to be completely honest with you the A5 and the Distortion I think they got the same amount of ctps they both got three ctps and they were having almost identical flights the whole entire time I would say that for this Distortion they likely just took the A2 and slightly changed the top to be a little bit more Zone like I did throw the Zone against it a couple times as well added a Zone just for this one since it's pretty similar feeling pretty similar Zone's a little little beefier once again the Zone just so we have a forehand comp as well little beefier as you saw both those times it was just a little bit more overstable maybe a little bit more consistent uh not quite A2 as we'll see hey I'm just going to quickly interject I think it's kind of funny that the Distortion is a 4303 disc and the A5 is 3411 because they are the same size around seemingly this is probably just the A5 with a different top is what it would seem to me and so they probably just wanted to change the numbers to me more in line with the Zone cuz I don't know when the A5 came out it might have been alongside the Zone but the Zone probably wasn't nearly as popular as it is now and so they wanted something that flies like a trusted and tried and true A5 but has better numbers and then also is marketable because of Kevin Jones back to what I I saying the Distortion I think honestly had a little bit more PL in the air could have been by a couple of bad throws but I felt like I was getting a little bit cleaner with the A5 not that it's necessarily better but I think my preference between these two is kind of a coin flip and I like the A5 especially with Kevin Jones leaving I don't know what they're doing with the Distortion so if I definitely had to choose I would choose the A5 and it's one I would consider for my bag more for very straight approaches that have some torque resistance but it did flip over a little bit I maybe rather just still keep my zone but I could see a place for this in my bag at some point so technically they tied but I'm going to give the edge overall to the A5 next are kind of the interesting like mini Gator ones the A3 and the A4 and when we looked at them initially and in terms of hand feel the A3 just is that little bit shallower and maybe because of that is a little bit meaner like this is a little the A4 is a little bit blunter the A3 is a little bit more rounded and I was surprised by the differences the numbers on the A3 are 4403 and the A4 are 44 -12 and I would change those ever so slightly but I was honestly initially surprised from the first throw that even though they felt very similar the A4 was a good bit glider than the A3 the A3 of course is supposed to be more over stable as the numbers get lower closer to one they tend to be a little bit more over stable in Prodigy's lineup but the A4 is definitely a little bit glider than the A3 but it still has some good hookup at the end I do think that they are kind of like mini Gators or mini Gator 3s they feel very similar to that they're a little bit smaller diameter and then they also fly with some overstable finish the A3 specifically I think has very little glass wi it's like if you take the A4 and the A2 and you smash them together and guess what happens when you average four and two you get three so good job proy on that that one whistles what the heck I would probably give the A3 4203 for the flight numbers and I would give the A4 4402 um not 44 negative one2 it's not going to turn on you but it does have some overstability uh for sure as you guys are able to see I think from these two I would have to give it to the A4 I tend to want something a little bit glider uh overall and it's still like it's not glidey glidey but it's a little bit more glidey than the A3 and if I want something that's like this I'd probably rather go for the feel of the A2 because you can just hit it a little bit harder as well this one didn't really hold up in the wind nearly as much as the A2 did so I'm going to go A4 and A5 so far and then the last guys the beefy boys the A1 versus the A2 and you guys are just going to see right off the bat I don't know who would need the A1 necessarily I think it's fun and I think some people would use it I think ezri Robinson has one that was really old and beat up that he threw forever the numbers of the A2 are 4403 and the A1 are 3303 so probably pretty accurate I don't think that the speed needs to really change they're the same diameter and they seem to fly similar speeds the A1 just has way less Glide and a little bit more fade I think specifically once we get to that flat backhand shot the fifth one you guys will see like out of the hand I'm trying to throw these guys flat maybe there's a little Hiser on it but both of them are just boom they're on angle right out right after they get out of my hand if you don't flex them at all and put that nose down on the flex they're not going to hold any turn at all but the A1 just turned into a knife and was like 50 ft shorter than the A2 on a flat shot I think you can definitely power up on it but you need a lot of power to get some good utility from the A1 the A2 I think you still will need a lot of power and for some people it's going to act like an A1 did for me today but I think that the A2 is just a staple approach disc it is so good I've had it in the bag before this made me want to put it back in the bag but the zone is it's more of stable than the Distortion A5 crowd and it's closer to like a A3 A4 but a little more predictable so I like the zone and that makes me not feel like I need the A2 but I see a place for both of them in the bag at some point if I had an ESP Zone in the bag or an A5 I would definitely still be bagging an A2 and I think eventually it will go back in the bag especially for some events but A2 definitely has my nod and I think it's my favorite approach disc from Prodigy probably followed up by the A5 um really solid approach lineup and I think overall I would say that Prodigy does have the best approach lineup in the game they have something for everybody even if you're getting started the A5 is going to act like that zone if the Zone's too overstable for you the A5 or the Distortion are going to be that really overstable guy and I think Luke humph is the A5 guy I think that's his thing and Luke is awesome so pick one of those up to support him I'll have all these linked on infinite if you want to pick them up thank you guys for watching I really enjoyed this style of review and I hope you did too it was a lot of fun to make peace