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The Most Overstable Distance Driver I've EVER Tested?!?
Testing the most overstable distance driver I've ever tried! Elite players take on challenging terrain in a real tournament - does it deliver?
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here's the deal you should not be throwing these discs for the most part most of you but I know you're gonna throw them anyways so let's review some stupidly overstable fast distance drivers today I'm here at West Creek Disc Golf Course and we're going to play the back nine because it is some of the longest nine holes in Denver and it's always windy here look at that thing this is my combo Destroyer that currently I'm bagging shout out to my patreon Greg Arctic cat's disc golf he died this but this is very domey and super overstable it's the 20 20 I'm not gonna say 20. it's the 2021 run of Calvin heinberg Destroyers I really don't throw it very much but this right now is my most overstable wind fighter but I can still throw it relatively far and I'm wanting to see if any of these are discs that I cannot throw super far one of them Joel Freeman told me I couldn't and that is his color glow Juggernaut it's like a little Halo color Halo glow star or something but this disc is a 13 speed and it is super blunt I mean look at the edge of that disc right there it is so much more blunt as compared to this Destroyer like if you were to take the thickness of the Destroyer wing and like add on another half that's how blunt this is so it should not go as far in theory this craft also sent me out this disc the new Big Z Venom they actually sent me some Z Light ones as well which are going to be in a future video but this disc I actually feel a little flashing on the edges right here which is kind of interesting it's seems like it's going to be pretty stable not not nearly as much as the Juggernaut and the wing is not as hot so this they made to be a more overstable and faster Force so I've heard so this maybe should Glide more than the jargonaut will maybe more similar to The Calvin Destroyer but I'm super interested to see how these throw and if there's even a place for something more stable than that super rubber stable combo Destroyer I might have to change the title of this video to YouTuber throws his arm out and could never throw disc past 100 feet again hopefully that's not the case our first hole 376 down past that little log structure kind of a straight headwind kind of on and off but even into a headwind I'm thinking all these I'm gonna need to actually turn over it's only 376 so I should be able to reach it with all the discs we're gonna throw my Calvin Destroyer first since this is the one that I'm by far the most comfortable with so overstable ripped it on anhyzer go in the bucket didn't hear anything now the one I'm super interested in is this Juggernaut man oh my that's a different Beast I didn't turn it over as much because it's a little bit wider of a rim similar to this Venom it's 13 speed as opposed to 12 I'm pretty sure you really have to make sure that you get the nose angle down for me it's a little harder to do with wider Rim drivers you know baby hand problems but not nearly as close to either of those other ones that is the big Z one and that went far honestly I'm interested to see if this force is even similar oh it is more stable than the force so that's good that's in the dog park like way in the dog park like so far in the dog Park's not even funny awesome well more stable than the force so they got that right I bet based on those throws you'd never be able to guess which of those discs I bagged I do think if I got the nose angle right I could definitely get it to this distance but definitely did not do that on this one finish oh deep so he parked it with the Halo Destroyer can't say that and then only got 15 footer what are you doing second hole is a 405 foot they call Par Four we're gonna play it as a three not that it even really matters slight left to right on this one can't really take the back door out right now I mean it is far but it's also just like super overgrown so we're gonna try to put these all in so much flex and height that they can go to the left of that tree and still get to the basket maybe it is my specialty go in the basket oh my gosh dude okay we're get we're giving it the birdie of the last Soul screw it screw my putting we're giving it the birdie Juggernaut like why why is this disc I mean I probably don't throw hard enough to even like see a need for this disc I just hoping to get this turnover at all see like it's not nose down at all that's Sonos up what you know earlier like my intro I was like you should not be throwing this I should not be throwing that disc I don't know if anyone should be throwing that discount this is crazy mom if you throw it way too way too oh it fought out of it huh impressed with that very impressed and I think I am going to keep throwing this Force just as a control of like this is your typical overstable distance driver I guess it's pretty equivalent to the Destroyer that I throw all over the place that's like my stable so like that just held a turn so long didn't quite get it right enough but that's a putt still I do think my big problem with this disc is like a two-fold skill issue it's not like one or the other it's both like one I don't throw hard enough to see the need I think the second skill issue is my hands are just honestly too small to like when I'm grabbing it like this I have to like be in this really weird pronation or soup I don't know the right word like my hand has to like come out weird whereas if I grab another disc more typically I don't have to like overdo anything weird with my forearm where I do with this so stable looks like the Destroyer went just outside the circle long I have to get like one to throw at that thing all right hole 12 our third hole 342 straight ahead of us there's a headwind with a little bit of right to left yes we're gonna give these the little forehand bid it's 342 which is probably close to the top end for a super stable forehand for me slightly a pill as well and you're not gonna get a skip so you kind of gotta land it there and that is how you throw it no sir that's kind of a look not good though gotta follow through that juggernaut baby let's go Juggy get over it you have no Glide yikes that thing does not go far it's a little too high and it's right next to the Juggernaut after throwing your nose up so that shows you anything now we'll go with the force kind of flat almost better distance really good shot there just slightly miss my angle or line either one but I guess I didn't name either of them good enough I really hope me continuing to throw that force and like throw it flat and I get a little turn because of the wind compared to all the rest of these it shows you how stable they are even that Venom man my long range putts Venom is a little bit behind the Juggernaut Juggernaut has the best chance to get the first birdie oh my you guys say putting doesn't even count these videos anyway so I'm just not even trying I'm just I'm just not trying that's what it is you know if I was trying automated all these putts if we're being real all right this video is turned into the Quest for a singular birdie similar wins the last hole headwind right to left foreign need a little more height so it can swing back left it's mostly nose down gosh that is a brick really good around it or go straight through it be birdie do you like that one look at that that's how different those discs are that's nuts that is crazy Juggernaut for the first birdie of the day we may finally get a birdie that's birdie that's tail window which is going to be helpful it's 460 well kind of not helpful because I have to put so much Annie on it whoa that was weird and bad and not a birdie out of my hand like I threw that higher than it went and out of my hand it went Glide oh my gosh you have to put so much anhyzer on it Maybe it's in the Fairway that might be as far as I can throw that thing not a high percentage but we're gonna step it out and nail it obviously no I'm just bad let me split the gap let's go so someone like bear bite you probably see them all over Instagram like YouTube shorts I feel like he'd have a field day with this thing I mean they call it a 750 foot par five we're gonna be playing it as a par four obviously might need to be a slight Flex with the really overstable guys okay we're learning we're learning that disc is still crazy and I barely made the Mando but we're learning how to throw it at least it's called throwing your whole body towards the ground as you release foreign oh why do I suck I was trying something in my form where like I stay behind everything and then I threw another guy yeah all right so we still got a pump with this Destroyer I feel like I didn't really get a hold of that all the way yeah it's pretty short that might be closer like 4 30. well I definitely thought that I cleared the Mando with a juggernaut it is short so it looks like we're throwing a forehand I did that my tournament last week too I need to learn how to like throw between 20 degrees and 80 degrees because those need to be my only options of course the Venom's the only one that's remotely good it's also the only one that's like close to a disc that I typically throw because even my Destroyer like I don't throw that thing a lot like almost at all just because it's so overstable check this thing out that I just found I've never heard of this doesn't have a name so I'm going to return it to the Dropbox but a TD turning driver d-line 10 5 negative two two super interesting little this dude you never heard of that from this Mania okay so guaranteed this whole is longer than 7 15. last time I said that I got a birdie right threw it in see then that's what we have to do it's not throwing it in it's not like in the birdie this video is tiring me oh holy cow and nine holes you basically play 36 holes all right we're only gonna play two more the last hole is blind this one says 498 so it feels a little pointless especially because we got a slight headwind right to left I'll throw it to Destroyer first and if it's like not even close we're just gonna skip to the next hole man it's not even gonna be close what's up fish oh that's kind of almost a look-ish Duggar not's not getting anywhere close today but we're gonna throw the van Too Short bad for reference we will throw the juggernaut Mama already hates me that's actually not terrible but that disc is silly man and I think because of how like thick the edges it'll even skip in this grass because it has so much like momentum going into the exit just we'll skip even a thick grass but honestly since I've been throwing stuff in so well today we're not even gonna put these we're gonna try to throw them in step so bad all right hole 17 our last hole I'm so tired and I just spent 25 minutes looking for the force that I flicked over and it was like just inside of the weed lines and I'm really stupid and now tired so I need some food we have a left to right which is kind of helping with an overstable disc I want to get at least one Burger we're gonna throw all four of these one last time but 400 Footers feeling a little Out Of Reach right now with something this overstable no I freaking bit to the Head come on wow that thing is not ever gonna stop amazing me is how stupid it is it's kidding it's not stupid I just can't remember foreign I think that's pretty parked maybe it's past the log I don't really know and 4C boy oh there's your stability buddy good job I really didn't think it'd be that stable you know we're gonna try to throw the TD baby kind of the opposite I feel like shout out Webb for losing this disc if I Ace it I'm keeping it sorry not sorry oh my God you're so flippy dude you're so flippy all right out drove the Calvin Destroyer by about 10 feet with the jug or not last chance for a Juggy birdie cheers let's go Venom all right because since we can see 18's basket it's not blind I think that's gonna be a little short okay fines in our range oh man trash maybe you shouldn't have done that I also rushed it okay the Juggernaut was way better than I expected we can just pretend here's the Venom maybe the Venom can get out of the birdie good so I'll be relatively happy if I never talk to Juggernaut again I do think like my arm is just not built for the juggie started out really fun and interesting and I was able to get a couple of good reps with it for sure and I actually figured out like I was throwing a decent but it's just so overstable and like this is already so overstable and I already have relative nose angle problems with this because of how like stiff it is in my hand and how high The Parting line is for Destroyer I'm really happy with this big Z one like very overstable very overstable but definitely gladier it goes farther it's faster than these other ones but definitely different category like it's it's not the same as this category which is where like I don't want this to go very far and I want it to be super overstable which is what it does it's also what this does but like way too extreme for me and then this might do that for you if you have a slower arm but you have bigger hands because this is a little bit wider of a rim so I'm gonna take a nap right here