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today we're out here at a disc golf course that I am not at enough it's finger Ranch there a couple par 4S there's a lot of wind but we're going to be playing with some discs that I've never even touched before like a brand like I've never I don't think I've ever touched any disc from this brand in my entire life it's still a little bit surprising for me when I am able to find a brand like that and this one actually found me big shout out to Hayden who is playing mj12 right now at the world championships and apparently he took fourth place in the distance contest with one of these discs so hopefully it's a bomber but he reached out to his main sponsor which is Goliath discs I believe and saw if they could send me out some discs I have banana fro for some lesser known companies but I was like hey I have this new birer diece series in style of video that I've been doing if I can get the whole lineup I would love to do one of those videos with it here out to Josh who's the owner and he hooked it up I think this is all discs let's see what we got in here I'm not even going to be putting with my own Putters for today's bir your diey and there's a lot of this that we're going to have to save if you don't know birdi your Dy is my my style of reviewing discs or just having a challenge with them where I have to birdie with the disc to put it in the safe Zone that means I get to keep it otherwise I have to give it away before I leave a course this might be too many discs to do this challenge honestly so you might have to make it by mold since I'm sure some of these are multiple discs in different Plastics I have no idea what's in any of this but in bird your die you have a limit on the amount of hisers that you're allowed to throw you have to start something out on Flex throw a straight shot at it or throw something that's not just a boring Denver Heiser just to keep things a little more interesting and if you bogey you lose a Hiser and if you're out of hisers a disc gets taken out of the safe zone so that's what we'll be playing today first off with the way maker which is a putter I believe this this brand Goliath discs is a company where the names are based around like Bible characters or Bible things so this is the way maker putter feels like it's much more bladed on the sides kind of like a cohort from infinite discs but it has a bead so we'll see if this is the only putter in here cuz I have to post it if that's the case we also have a thrower so we are going to do this by mold um so you'll be able to save molds rather than specific discs here this one's a little bit of a gummy plastic and it's see-through and actually feels very good it's a little bit wide of a putter kind of feels like a mix between a pa3 and a focus put those back in the car next up we have the Redemption 5502 this disc feels like a slightly less beaded md4 it's what it kind of looks like it it looks like instead of having a bead at the bottom it just continues on the bevel so I imagine it's going to be a little bit over stable it feels pretty good and then the Genesis which this one looks like it's going to be pretty flippy I don't know the numbers on any of these unless they say it but this one looks like it's probably going to be a flip up four speed maybe it feels a little bit smaller diameter like even smaller than a dude from trash Panda which I was just there today got some really good content coming from that but I like to show you we'll throw these two in the bag we have another Genesis maybe yes this is another Genesis just in a more star-like plastic and I don't know if they do their own manufacturing it actually looks a little bit unique in the under molding here not under molding but on the flight plate you kind of see where it says like Goliath this Genesis up there it doesn't look similar to other companies that I've seen before this does really feel like a hybrid mid putter so we'll throw that back in there as well see which one's a little more overstable but I don't think these are these don't seem to be manufactured by other companies that we've seen before this one is the Gyra which feels very big it feels like a 5 and a half speed it feels very wide for a mid-range maybe just cuz I had that in my hand and this one is a little bit faster looking is this another gyro and a premium yes this is another Gyra and this plastic is a little bit gummy this base one versus the premium this one's much harder so I wonder if it's even more over stable now on to the Fairway drivers The Ark in the Oasis plastic this has Arc F2 on it so it might be like a second run but this is a little bit gummy everything I felt has been pretty gummy the only stiff ones have been the base Plastics and this Redemption is in a different plastic so I don't know what plastic this is in and it also doesn't look like cot stamping it looks more like printing on the disc which is super interesting this looks more like a traditional stamp seems like a 8 or N speed that is pretty neutral is this another one no this is the Enoch Fairway driver which this one looks a little bit faster a little more bladed and a little more overstable this feels like maybe like the 8502 style disc so those two we have oh the chain breaker this is the firebird style 9304 and I'm going to be honest like this is another one that looks printed on and you can actually feel it's raised on top of the disc which sorry but let's see what my thumb can do okay so your thumb can just kind of take off the printing I think this is pdj legal because it comes from the manufacturer but that is definitely an interesting style it doesn't seem to be the same type of foil and more seems to be like a vinyl print like you would do on a t-shirt but this actually I mean very gummy feeling but it feels pretty like Firebird esque actually kind of more Avalanche this is a very Avalanche filling disc which is a little thin profile a little deeper than a raptor I I think but very flat top to wing and then a very specific Wing so kind of feels like an avalanche I haven't seen any markings that would make me know who these are molded by or manufactured by and so it could be an independent uh plastic oh we got another mid it looks like the pillar this looks like a very deep fourspeed I know the harp is typically a deep four speed but this feels a little deeper cuz it feels a little rounder on the top it feels like it'll it's honestly pretty deep on the backand and maybe a little a little better on the forehand but still very deep this is a tour series for somebody um so shout out PGA 48920 sorry I don't know who you are but this is the Tour series pillar and now onto the distance boys I hope we got a slingshot because I want to see how far bom so the last discs we have we have first one is a slingshot 135 -22 I'll be honest a lot of times when you have these smaller companies they'll have something about one of their discs which is just like a this is so off this is so weird I think the closest one so far for me right now is the pillar which is just like it's like if you take a Zone and then you like bulk it up a little bit take it approach disc and then you add a stroke on the outside so it just gets a little bit bigger every single way so I'm not sure how I'm going to like this this is the only one so far that feels like this is a little weird some of them have slightly odd shapes but I mean even your distance drivers which can tend to get a little bit of extra concavity I mean this doesn't feel bad for a flippy 13 speed it I this looks like it's actually going to really bomb so if we find the right wind it's going to be really good next we have the Rapture holy cow the Oasis Rapture kind of looks like it's going to be like neutral with a little stability also a good shape not exactly copying like a destroyer like disc but another actually pretty good shape and then oh this one feels beef oh it's another Rapture so maybe this one is just a different plastic I like the little the baby stamp down here but this one is uh this one feels a little more overstable than this one cuz the party line's a little lower here two raptures luckily and lastly the Ambush 12632 oh boy this is Flippy and it's flat and flippy so the shoulder is high and then it gets flat I'm not sure if I'm going to like this one too much but I'll be honest First Impressions really good for like a smaller company that I haven't ever thrown or touched any of their disc before there are gems in all these smaller companies and I'm excited to find that one today and see which one is my favorite I'll rank these at the End by mold we'll do a tier list at the end instead of ranking them one to whatever cuz they're all different they're different styles but none of these none of these discs are like it's a little weird the pillar comes the closest everything else besides the feel maybe being like a little different than what I'm used to just from having traditional molds the way maker is a pretty wide putter but I really don't think there are any like bad discs in here I'm pretty impressed with cuz typically especially once you get into those drivers you can do some crazy stuff with some discs like always I play two off the top and if we do birdie we only put the one that we birdie with in the safe Zone at par fours you can save two discs the one that you drove with and the one that you approached with and if I get an eagle or n it saves everything automatically roll a D6 go we got four that's not bad we got a big tail one to get started 355 ft Straight Ahead OB right we're playing all the OBS and the drop so today I think this is a good time to kind of see how these mids fly 355 up the hill but we do have a tail one I think the right play might just be Redemption right at it and if we're not throwing very far we might disc up to a fairway oh that's not nearly as overstable as I thought it was get inbounds o That's OB okay faway time we're going to throw the chain breaker yikes whoa that's beef oh my okay really wanted to get one saved here I did Count there are 10 mols so we have to save 10 mold today I think there are two or three par fours we don't want a bogey though cuz we only have four hisers maybe I should have used one here that chainbreaker more of stable than I expected it to be thought I could smooth a little anheiser out there that Redemption was a lot flipper than I expected it's a little bit past pin high but it's straight OB I thought it would get stable faster long putt to make but no matter what don't bogey on the first hole we can find some birdies on the way out distance was not bad here a little short I mean that thing is beef it kind of looks like a plat fireberd and it kind of flies like one too with the way maker just got to make sure not juice it too hard there is a right to left I think we're okay with that we could have really tried to run it but that is the danger and I'd rather tap in a par and try to make a 20-footer in a headwind this base plastic feels maybe like a slightly slightly grippier version of the old disc craft putter line plastic not their new softer hard just the regular putter line kind of feels similar to that but a little more velvety the premium kind of just feels like a gummy Champion but like not super gummy but like definitely softer I'm not going to lie I'm a little bit worried about today's challenge with this wind with these new discs I think I forgot about the pillar there might be 11 molds oh no did I 6 7 8 9 10 11 there's 11 oh no no worries we got a couple part fours I was going to play him a little aggressive to try to Eagle still might but oh no when you play two off the top here you have to make sure you birdie that was pretty rookie mistake this one is 315 straight down there we have a little bit of a left to right so I think we're going to try a little heer flip with uh Genesis Genesis it's got a tail left to right throw aiser at the basket I don't think based on the shape it's going to be flippy enough to really burn over over this more star looking one this might actually be a base plastic the Genesis might be a putter it might be a beadless putter I'll look up the flight numbers after this nice so like that shot stayed on Hiser but it's not a Hiser cuz it's like a flat shot at the B like a driven shot at the basket a Heiser I'll show you like that would be like if I was to just take this chain breaker and be like okay we're going to judge the distance on the shot with a Hiser and just throw it wide and let it just knife down at the ground right by the basket so also parked that would be the Hiser just a quick explanation I'll throw this I this might be a Potter it's also not nearly as understable as I thought we do have a left to right wind which will keep it not like flipping up and over but I think we have a tap in birdie and it throws very smooth like very much like a slightly more overstable pure but like wider I don't know I'll have to test it in the in the way maker cuz the way Maker's part of plastic feels better than the Genesis in the base or plastic chain breaker Heiser landed right here Genesis right here I think it's a putter I had to have just misread that also now me calling it a putter it feels like a putter to me now maybe I'm just really dumb and susceptible but I actually I really like that flight it was very very straight but if I had to give it numbers I'd probably say 3301 so far it didn't flip like I thought it could have just kind of rode right on that line three you can see the basket down there it's a 510t par 4 and that's mostly because of how Pinchy this op gets I mean one it is super far but then you look at that OB and you're like oh my we unfortunately oh dang it we unfortunately have a head right to left cuz it's the opposite of the last one which is a tail left to right I really wanted to see if we can get the slingshot there and I think we will as a second I wanted to do it for Hayden see if we can get my first ever Eagle on this hole with that disc and at least make sure we go OB way up there but I think we're going to play the smart play try to save two discs and see how they fly so I think we're going to throw the Redemption again I think it can like the wind better than the last mid which is the Gyra which feels a little wider let's throw smooth turnover try to get some distance oh sit down sit sit sit this it I think it's fine I think it's short but that's that's a lot flipper than md4s the shape of It kind of fooled me a little bit so I am on infinite looking at Goliath discs which if you want to go and Shop there go and check them out sell them out why not slingshot apparently is coming soon and it looks like we have basically all of their discs does look like the Genesis is a putter 3401 is what they call it so that makes sense the pillar 3204 the Redemption supposed to be 5502 like it says and then I'll show you the other ones as we as we throw them but first see if we can rip this slingshot down there oh wow it's got more stability than I thought I guess when it got high in that I mean I'm right next to the next teed so that's nice I don't have to walk too far but when you throw it that high in the air not much you can do we'll check out the Ambush too real fast see if we can Ambush the basket oh baby flippy holy okay good to know 13 speeds nose angles very sensitive so didn't really throw it super well there is like a 600t down par 4 if there's a Tailwind I've gotten that one relatively close and I haven't played this course in a couple months so we might be able to two that one today definitely going to push this one a little farther maybe throw a flex with one of the stable seing Fairways and got a little bit more up cuz we still have about 200 in but I think we'll throw this way maker cuz I actually I mean it's premium but it's kind of gummy this way maker might be better cuz it's a base plastic oh no well it's a par went out right by the basket one to save through three holes means we got 10 more to save on the back 15 we're going to have to go 10 down or better and there are some holes that are really tough to brid power is fine but we're not winning any birdi or die challenges at this pace whole four straight up the hill got to birdie this guy this is like a musket I think I was going to go flex forehand with the pillar why would I ever do that when I can just throw a flex backhand use a Hiser still fade my way up the hill and maybe give a little Ace Run come on pillar be good it is man it's very it is nice and stable that's a putt we're putting we can't complain about that it is fun to play with new disc I never get to play with like a whole company of discs that I've never thrown anything from before cuz I feel like always at least in some sort of Mystery Box video and maybe I'm forgetting something like the G rings a bell but then I felt it I'm like no never felt this before I don't feel like I've ever thrown any of the disc from this company before which is so fun I never get to do that I missed this course I haven't played here in a while and I think the course knew that so it actually calmed down the wind for me already the sun came out instead of these little dark clouds Denver I appreciate you today now please stay like this forever otherwise I I'll start eating it again hope five seems a little tricky looks like it's 3:42 up the hill I had to walk all the way up there cuz it's very left I think I've only ever seen this position one other time and I still don't quite fully see where it is I should look at what they say the flight numbers are well I'll throw it first and then I'll guess but I think this one looks very overstable like if you just look at that Wing compared to this Wing this one's a little more probably will go far but we'll be like a little straight this one is a little Flex here but I think if I give it some good Flex out there it will have a good stability to get back no heers oh yeah it is beef it's actually beefer than I thought I didn't give enough credit so I'm hoping I hit some grass and stopped that's pretty nice this one seems a a little straighter so I think that line will actually drift a little more oh no they're both over stable and I threw the second one like really bad nice good news is that par 4 is kind of a nice bomber downhill hole so we'll get to see flights from all these guys on about whole 10 after I have already thrown most of them but that way I can show you a more like General review so it's not just like you're getting one shot with each of these discs in case you're interested in them or the company or the values behind it in general I think I got to be pretty close cuz this looks to be about where I had thrown it oh nice oh gross reaction okay yeah it really reminds me of P1 luckily it's safe unfortunately couldn't save the Rapture so looks like we're all going to heaven right now for down wait maybe if I save the Rapture do we all go to heaven I don't know how that works you let me know we got a nice shorty we have to birdy this hole and it's going to have to be way maker cuz that's the slowest this we got left too high no oh no it really is a little wide so when it starts getting down it doesn't like just die it pushes and dies no shoot oh both those felt good it's a little low all right o I think whole 9's actually the Par Four I think we need to have five saved on the front nine so three more we got a fun one to try to save one now 480 way downhill I think we're actually just going to go Rapture cuz we know what this does we're going pretty downhill into a headwind and I think I was going to use a Hiser but because of how stable these guys are I think I'll throw this one a little less stable a little more Dome and we'll throw it kind of flat to flex down there and uh just hope we get a nice look at the basket Flex out of the hand that looks really nice if it's slow enough just dig yes oh baby I'm been raptured by that shot I get to say this I'm going to be a dad soon just for fun these Genesis seem to have a lot of Glide see if we can park it with the Genesis yep that's really good ah shorty little short let's try this one it's hard in this headwind get left oh I think that's like edge of circle one let's go okay this is legit inside the circle with this Genesis right here 483 ft hole let's go buckets ho eight 304 ft there is OB all the way up to it and there's a far drop Z so OB here is basically Auto bogey one of the reasons why I cut my hisers and I'm really I don't know how this Gyra is going to fly the the flight number say ne11 and it definitely could be that man the premium one oh they actually they they're not beat it I thought I thought they were beat and they're kind of not they're just they have a little bit of a concave bevel I really think chainbreaker on a flex forehand will keep it in the middle and I can't really push it too far waa it's so beefy this is not even close I definitely think I made the wrong decision here I threw a Gyra the 55 negative 111 disc on like a soft turn I'm pretty sure it's parked maybe a little short but we got a nice 140t pitch up with the way maker honestly since this is for bogey we're either going to lose one or two hisers because if we single we lose one if we double obviously we lose an extra I think actually instead of the way maker since we've already saved this we just need to throw like a straight shot at it with the Genesis that was nervy but it's safe nice little single found to three hisers I'm not too pissed about losing a Hiser there cuz we still have three left and this is the eagle opportunity I don't feel a lot of wind so I'm hoping we can take some of Hayden's juice and throw that slingshot as far as I possibly can give it a nice ride nose down on the 13 speed if we could Eagle this guy that'd be sick oh it's so flippy no oh that was the worst shot ever I'm sorry you had to see that I honestly thought it was going to have more stability and then I just threw it on the Heiser instead of heer flipping it I thought that was the right shot and it was very much not obviously should still be able to get up and down and save two discs I might save one of the other Fairways cuz those Fairways look kind of cool and there's more mid-range holes in the back I think pump this Ambush down there though oh my gosh that's the flippi disc in the entire world I'm going to go Mark that pick it up and try again not the Ambush the Ambush can stay down there oh my gosh all right we snagged them I know right where this one was it's in like a 10 out of 10 up and down spot about 220 ft away but we'll go back there after throwing it actually well I don't know what to do with this guy ah right in between those is so good dang it there might be another big bomber hole later but those fast those 13 speeds are really hard to kind of you have to hit him so perfect Ambush what the heck are you buddy okay I threw it nose up enough to to go left yikes I just want to see how this guy flies when you throw it really hard the 12503 I think it's just still be overstable I'm definitely going to have to turn this but let's see if we can get a nice flight with it this is like a good control over stable driver has a good feel just as far as the 13 speed but way less distance potential but I'd be more likely to B the Rapture over the others honestly kind of why I really only throw my ey blend Emperors and not really my pharaohs too much anymore cuz like I know those dis better and still throw them all right but the nose angle sensitivity once you get to that 13 speed and Beyond it's a little bit tough to overcome for which is why most drivers that you'll see the pr throwing are 12 speeds there's reason 12 speeds are kind of the kings of distance drivers they balance control and let you get away with something pretty well this is right where that first one that I just basically cut rolled landed chain breaker 9304 super beef push push push push oh that's why you do that so Skippy I think I'm going to put with the Genesis feels decently Bassy enough just a little more this is so wide to putt with I feel like I'm throwing frisbee which I am but that felt easier wow that's so overstable I would say that is kind of 204 I thought wow I don't know if I'm run I think I have to run that cuz I have Bogies to spare other way maker huh that's kind of that's really not bad I have to birdie if I lose a Hiser it sucks but it's not the end of the world there are a couple holes where it makes life so much easier using a heer as like a bogey buffer I don't hate right now come on no how did it drop so much there we go jeez I'm I'm happy with myself for running that I'm happy with myself for putting it right on line and not airballing it not happy that I don't think there are any par fours left that hole is so tricky that hole is so tricky and we can only miss two more this can get this can turn into some trouble left to right wind forehead definitely seems like the play and I don't know how many opportunities we're going to have for Fairways the ark or the Enoch I never picked up the Ambush dang it I'll snag that on the way back cuz I'm not going to use it until then the ark is like a straight NP speed I just don't want to get to glidey and going into the river and I think I'd have to heer it so I think once again feeling like I'm feeling but we're going to have to throw these way makers I'm going to throw the base one that's actually really nice cuz of the wind that was a pretty bad shot that has a really good result wo if we can get a birdie on this next toll I think it's almost guaranteed that we win the challenge if we bogey it's going to be tough cuz we'll be down to two hisers actually we're going to throw this one it's definitely more gummy it's a little more overstable from the first time that I threw it and I think with this win if we throw it right at the basket on a touch of Annie actually maybe a little left and try to just drift it it's going to be tough as long as we can three this one we're happy but a two here would be big for our chances oh no yeah no chances oh no there is still a look for the par little low two hisers left taking the bogey there I do like the bogey means you lose aiser rule cuz makes me run more things we've tried the Gyra a couple times at this point we've also tried the Redemption a couple times 4 13 is 313 straight ahead it's like swirl all over the place but mostly behind me the Redemption I think has more stability than the Gyra so get there oh that's going to be so short is it we do have dang headwind left to right I was going to try to throw like a straight forehand at it with the ark or the Enoch but I think the play is going to be the Heiser flip of Gyra at it we'll try out this premium one instead of the base drop drop drop drop drop drop drop jeez dude okay this will be huge got to knock this down four holes to go five discs to save like I'm just been a little bit off today and it's costing me a lot of discs I really like the Redemption but I also really like the Enoch cuz it kind of it feels pretty sweet and then the ark and then I mean we have to Ace to save the Ambush but I'll still stag that disc and throw it again but that thing is getting gone it's like really hang around here today too much I'll end up giving the big pile of however many discs we have to give away if I don't Ace to one of you guys and I'll tell you how at the end of the video I know this is a bit dangerous but it's 255 ft we have a right to left wind and I think the most stable disc we have left is the Redemption Enoch The Arc they're all a little less stable if you throw off this side of the teapad and just throw like a flat flat toer shot not obviously a Hiser to gauge distance but just a flat toer shot we should be able to get it close as long as I don't roll my wrist I have to snap it clean yes now finish the wind didn't help it but we're putting from there let's go Redemption way to redeem yourself I'm going to be a dad soon you can't blame me for that one so I'm honestly whoa pretty impressed with the stability of this I would say it really is that 552 maybe even 5503 it's glidey but it does have the bite so I threw it pretty slow Against the Wind and I mean got to here redeemed officially I am redeemed I'm a little scared I just went back to look for this Ambush cannot Ambush it I think it's gone I'm hoping someone snagged it on their way through cuz it's a pretty poor like attempt at an up shot it does make it a little easier that I was basically going to have zero chance of saving that disc but I wanted to see it flip like crazy again the last two holes can for sure be hisers with these Fairways on forehand and then on backhand so is gy up the middle save two discs cuz it's one mold we're going to throw the base one just throw a flat straight shot right at that tree there's a right to left so it should push towards the basket and then we'll go forehand Heiser backhand Heiser save them all push it off the tree oh no premium oh such a heer flip Beast practice some straight forehands with these guys that's the Enoch won't get too stable in the ark that's nasty oh that's so nasty now I have a choice to make and good news for you guys is I'm going to be giving something away since that Ambush has gone forever it's almost tough these 18 hole ones are almost tougher than the nine holes cuz you really got to be on it for more and you feel like you have more time at the front so like a whatever Parts you got a frontload save in the discs Tailwind you know Kaiser I think it's parked that's really good we used theisle correctly we might still have one left on the last hole this has been a fun challenge these discs have not been the problem today at all the few times I've thrown that Enoch and the Ark I've been so happily to surprised with him this is just really not a fairway driver course for me unfortunately honestly a lot of courses aren't really Fairway driver courses for me and den but that Enoch I think it's very bladed so it's a little bit fast for an eight speeed but it has good hookup and it has good torque resistance like I've been flicking it all over the place feel like I'm big germ so really really happy with that oh my gosh I was like looking all over the place for this disc I like did I seriously go OB what the heck no I just like Mega par but it looks like the ark's going to have to be given away I have to really feel confident about this driver shot though cuz if I don't birdie I give away all three of these I'm pretty confident in a Heiser I got a decision to make good thing there's people playing so I can think oh man there's a good bit of a right to left wind it's CU off that back a little Tailwind because to theer these glad discs that thing can be S don't think thater going be the best place so might have to throw something right at it but there is a be that surrounds a basket right behind it right to the right of it should I just throw the gyro should I flip it up should I do have the highy left maybe I should May should just forand the arc probably just ride way too far cuz it's pretty unable distance hi flip it over that tree sit down by the basket flash chains easy buckets all right made it to a big old field we do have this wind so tail little bit of right to left not bad at all I'm going to range down to that fence I don't think it's in reach I think it's about 575 down there so shouldn't reach it be sweet if we did it is a little downhill it's going to be mostly gut reaction in terms of the teers that I think these discs will fall into but I'll show you the flight while I give them the ranking as well if you don't know about tier list s tier means for me I would bag it a tier means really solid disc and I could find a way to put it in my bag but it' probably be like a third or fourth choice not a first or second B tier would this is fine I think most people could enjoy this C tier is some people might find a use for it and then we'll just kind of skip all the way to F tier I don't think I'll have anything between any of those but way maker I think see tier also put these distances on the screen for you solid goes decent honestly Genesis I'm between A and S tier I'm going to put this at the top of a tier but I don't think it's quite as tier yet we're just going to throw the premiums so I don't have to throw too many shots woo next the three oh pillar I think the pillar I'm between B and CER with this I and I do think it's a top of C tier disc not a bottom of B tier disc just a little wide feeling I don't think it's going to find a place in most people's back just cuz of how wide it is but some people who have really big hands might really like it or if all the approach this are a little too shallow for me c I'll do the ones I'm giving away last so next up is going to be the Redemption not quite what I expected but I would give this a b tier disc shanked through the field goal but like that should be more over stable now it's just not next of the disc that I get to keep is the Enoch and for a straight8 speeed I didn't get to throw it too much but the feel in the hand is absolutely phenomenal it is it honestly kind of looks like a kind of better Prodigy F1 didn't mind forehand it didn't mind backhanding it I would give this probably like lower a tier upper B tier probably low a tier like that's just a nice straight flight with some over stability at the end chain breaker whoops B tier fine that's the job on to the distance guys this is where I am excited slingshot for me is going to be dependent on this throw if I'm able to finally get a good rip on it I think it could be an a tier disc right now it's kind of B tier I'll give it lower a tier if I can get a 500 plus foot rip down this hill that might be a tier oh a little more stability than I thought oh my gosh that is so far I think that's at that light pole so we'll measure that then the last of the disc I get to keep is the rapture this is an upper a tier disc this one might be close to S tier nice and overstable very predictable and reliable goes far enough but not too far not too glidey for the overstability 12503 I think are really good numbers I would say this one is bottom s tier top of a tier this one's kind of middle to lower a tier but I think if we have to put a disc in s tier today it's going to be between this and the Genesis and I think I'll put the Genesis over it so I think Genesis is s tier this is the top of a tier I think the feel of it helps the no like you get really good nose angles with it but that's like Dart of a golf line like straight down there and I'm going to guess you'll know on the screen but I'm going to guess that's like 480 or so the last three molds we'll start with the Gyra two of these are going away this is another a tier disc I think very good a little bit weird feel which it's just how concave this Rim is it might put it down into like the bottom of a tier top of B tier but I'm going to give it squirely in the middle of a tier for the J Arc didn't get to throw out much this one is I honestly probably put this B tier just from all the throws I had it seemed to be consistent pretty flippy but like very reliable oh it's not drifting that much okay I thought a Pap aiser would actually be good for it but it's pretty true to numbers lastly Ambush this one if I get this right in this wind can go absolutely ridiculously far but I would say this is the only one that for me personally I have to put closer to bottom of seat here I'm not going to quite put it an F there because the guys who gave it back to to me were're Masters players uh a little older and they said that it flew well for them cuz they threw it a couple times um and they liked how it through so for me I'd probably put it in F tier cuz I think it's kind of unusable for me but in general this might be kind of closer I I don't I can't say I'll put it in C tier for the sake of their positive review oh if the tail one Stables that out that's incredibly massive wow that was holy crap my car's right in line with this so I'm kind of going to range it but we'll throw the UN onone there I'll confirm with the rangefinder that's the tier list I have to not tell you if the slingshot is a or b tier depending on if I got it over 500 that last one I think I toned back just the right amount and just the right amount of higher in the tailin and got a really nice flight so I'm going to bump that one up to be tier it feels good it's just really Flippy and the first couple thrs are terrible so the bottom of be tier but be tier nonetheless keeping up on the big boys we're right over the Rapture at 468 it's honestly not crazy crazy downhill you can it's probably about 5 beat downhill so it's definitely downhill but not insane honestly need to get better at throwing in a Tailwind because my Tailwind rips are just like they just don't get the nose down enough this one Ambush 485 484 so 483 we'll call 483 is it an a tier disc by getting over the 500t Mark here walking right over to it watching Deb now right now or listening to it on the way over oh my gosh right over and it's finalizing at 18 here 507 I'm going to confirm back to the car I'm shooting 525 to my car so I would say this is probably certified five bills it does feel very very good and I think there was more in the tank on this disc I don't feel like I gave it the biggest rip that I could of I'm going to give an excuse my little pecs are sore but man of these things fun thank you guys for watching and giving me the platform that makes this stuff possible cuz can't believe that this is my job you guys are the best uh more videos coming see you tomorrow man this is awesome go to Instagram to find out how to win the four disc that I I sucked with today bye