Disc Golf Backhand Form Critique 2

how's it going everyone hunter here with foundation disc golf and in today's video we're going to be doing another forum critique so this was submitted to us from one of our patreons we're going to go ahead and take a look at his form uh critique it a little bit and then give some drills to help correct these problems so let's jump into it alright so here we have his form video let's go ahead and take a quick look at it and then see what uh see what we can change here all right so he didn't do it in slow-mo which is not a problem at all um but i have slowed it down a few times before watching i mean before doing this videos that i knew kind of the issues to talk about here um and you know his upper body and lower body are kind of doing the right things this is something we see a lot right um it's more of a timing issue right so the main issue is we're talking milliseconds here but it's enough to throw him off somewhat um if i can find the right frame which quicktime makes this pretty hard so here is pretty close to the right frame if i go back a frame or two his arm's already fully extended and his front foot is not down yet now this isn't really an issue but it is like a um it's an issue if you're having trouble with your timing right um because your arm can stay back the whole time if you want it to as long as your timing's good when you start your pull through but what this is causing him to do and a super common problem across the board that's causing a lot of people to do is to start his pull through with his arm and get ahead of himself um because his legs you'll see his hips and his legs do the right thing they're just like slightly behind which is not allowing all the momentum and power and everything generating from his lower body to transfer up so you'll see if i can get this to go forward a few frames way too many frames there um about here maybe a back of frame this is very tough okay so here's good enough um you can see in this frame his arm is about to release the disc and his hips are facing us they're facing towards us still maybe even slightly back still you see that um his weight is mostly transferred but not fully transferred yet whereas when your arm is in this position like you're just about to throw you want all the weight to be on your front foot already so his weight transfer is a little bit off but i think a lot of this is caused by the timing right and also his timings off because you can see his hips are facing us whereas in this frame his hip should be facing forward this causes a few different things one we've already talked about the power right you lose power when you don't have your weight transfer and your hips turning correctly another thing this causes is it makes your disc come offline as we kind of saw last week or not last week last time i shot one of these it makes your disc kind of come offline a little bit because your body's not turning so when your arms doing that right motion it has to bring it offline some so this is probably going to cause a few now he didn't say this but this is probably going to cause a few different misreleases that if his hips were turning correctly and with the right timing that would be uh that'd be gone so that's the number one problem that i see with him but it's also a very very common problem across the board and it's all generated like i said from the beginning of his reach back so again his front foot you know it looks like it's almost planted but he plants his foot sideways not a huge deal but you can see his arms already reached back so that's where the root of this problem is right so that problem that's easy fix we're about to do some drills to fix that the next problem that i noticed was mainly due to you'll see his follow through he's always straight up right his follow through he's always like up and his arm kind of comes up so i thought that was a little bit weird so if we uh bring it back you'll see his reach back is in a good spot right where he should just from there be able to just pull through maybe a little bit low but you'll see as he kind of comes through he straightens up and stands up and you see where his arm is now compared to where his arm was at the beginning of his reach back which i jumped a little bit too far forward there but um we'll watch it again here i'll try to scrub through you'll see his reach back's low and then his arm comes up high and you can see it there where the disc is coming out nose up now you know if your arms low to high and you're throwing an anhyzer or something that's great but this it looks like he's trying to throw flat maybe even a slight bit of hyzer because i can still see the top of the disc in this frame here um which means you do not want this nose up because nose up all it's going to do is it's just you're fighting you know you're fighting power the whole way you're fighting uh with some wind resistance the whole way to where you can't get as much distance all it's going to do is it's going to get to a certain point and stall and start coming backwards so we're going to focus first on getting timing right but a second thing that we'll talk about is having your pull through level um and then to change the angles of the disc changing your upper body angle instead of your pull through angle your pull through should never be low to high unless you're throwing a spike hyzer and you're leaned forward so the disc is still nose down but going high um or same thing with the anhyzer you're leaning backwards so the disc is still going to be nose down but going high but when you're flat and you're reaching low to high then the disc is going to come out nose up and it's not going to go anywhere so i think those two things are the main things there's some other you know minor things but they are going to make a big difference at all if you can fix uh you know the hip timing and the pull through not being those up you'll notice a drastic increase in distance and these are both extremely common problems so more than likely you watching this at home either have struggled with it will struggle with it or are currently struggling with one of these two so let's jump over to a few drills to fix this all right so we're going to go over the drill to fix the timing first and then we'll go over the drill for the pull through second so this is very similar to the drill from the last one um basically what you're going to do is you're going to start with your feet closed together and your arm you know bent at 90 degrees this is kind of simulating your reach back uh as you extend your front foot forward to plant you're going to extend your arm backwards so what you want is you want your arm fully extended here the second your front foot plants there right so i'm here my front foot plans my arms fully extended right and you're gonna do that a few times to get used to that timing because typically what happens is it's more like this timing see what i'm saying with my arms back and then my hand my thing my arms back then my foot plants you want them to happen at the exact same time what that will allow is your lower body already knows what it's doing right so your lower body already as it plants transfers weight and goes through so this allows your upper body to be correctly timed with that because as soon as your lower body plants your weight is going to transfer so if your your reach back isn't there till plants your weight transfers that's going to start your upper body to pull through to allow your timing to be right so once you get the timing down just like this drill you can throw from it if you want but you don't really have to just get used to this and then what you're going to do is walk through the except some so you'll start here and just walk through slowly and make sure that your arm is in this position and then as your front foot extends you reach back it's the exact same thing you just did in the drill but now you're just implementing it into your actual x step um and again it should be reach back and as soon as your front foot plant is when your arms fully extended and that allows your hips and lower body to start to pull through like it's supposed to now for the upper body the uh you know you have the issue of your pull through kind of coming up high and this coming out nose up what you're going to do for this is more so focus on your follow through there's not really too many drills um to do with this because it's a pretty simple fix but basically i would recommend your slope throwing some standstills slowing down some and once you throw just try to keep your upper body on the same plane and your follow through straight around right because right now your upper body is kind of stopping coming up and your arms coming up so try to keep it on the same plane and your arm through as you throw and just if you focus more on your follow-through that should correct the whole throw so if you focus on your follow-through being on the same plane that should correct everything else and then like i said upstairs earlier um if you're trying to change the angle just lean so lean forward your body's still on the same plane even though your hand comes up but your body is on the same plane you can see that same thing if you lean back your body's on the same plane um so your arm and everything should do the same motion but if you're trying to change your angle just lean so that's going to be it hopefully these drills help you and also help everyone at home watching this video correct these different issues if you want your form to be critiqued check out the link in the description below to our patreon account it's five bucks a month that gets you access to a bunch of exclusive things uh discounts giveaways um post podcast q and a's and forum critiques and other than that guys check us out on instagram facebook subscribe here and thank you guys so much for